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2 THE GUARDIAN Wednesday December 19 1962 PERSONAL WORTHY IS THE LAMB thai wa slain, and hth rtdetmd to Cod br HI Btooa A Protest over big lorries 'GROWING MENACE' Lord Chesham Secretary, Ministry of Transport i said in the House of Lords vester- VEILED WARNING TO PREMIER Tories motion on deterrent By FRANCIS BOYD, our Political Correspondent Over a hundred Conservative CHAIRBORNE GENERALS UNDER SCRUTINY Nye Committee into action la the House of Commons last night said one needed a fairlv regular change Mr ROBERT CARR (C. Miteham) Jiffiu" moved that the House took note of vent senior officers from becoming oftice- the report of the Estimates Committee bin chairborne too long. There was not a single department in in the last session of Parliament Whitehall which could not afford some relating to the War Office. drastic pruning. The War Office staff The War Office In 19623 would cost -H2 SfilrSS" j.

officers below thai rank. The compar- 9 millions but it was directly respon- aDie fleures of the Admiralty were 22 nag umcers, equivalent to various kinds 51 ble zor a total Army vote ni Lazu mil- lions The effectiveness of the control over this much bigger sum is far mora winrfinw nr. f. ik onnrteiimn t-important than the cost of the head- pET (fib posts at the war Office were held by tho mUitary personnel who. on averase, broken TURKISH BATHS AT GASKELL5 Kay simma.

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120 PXU ILU1 LoDdoa SW. WTO 1971 juuh; Here accepted in zmt. did not stav more than three years and members of the Army Council even less, in any particular posu The were individually and directly res-War Office in their reply seemed far ponsible to him. For this reason it would less ready to correct this weakness than impossible for anyone below the level did the Admiralty two years ago. i- Ay Council to have any over- (Jonunuity 01 top management (in me War Office) was essential if better 5SSSS5ndrSr0ueSSf? hetteJ 5S7brwu Turnlne to control of research and devSSSSfenl hflaid the cost onArmy votes alone ran at something over fl4 millions a year.

In addition, sums were carried on of Aviation votes for work carried on on behalf of the Army. It was clear, to the committee that the s-stem for control of research and 6XiSted the SSSM-ia to be raught for project of more than 30.000 which were given to outside con- tractors, but no authorisation was given lor wore cornea out in ine government own research establishments. They found committees in almost every field of administration In the War Office. Individual responsibility, which is the most Important feature of modern rrmnagemem wasrepiacea ocomnm. ii LONDON TO MANCHESTER BY LLOYD'S TRANSPORT furfdamental lhouirV into the functions research deve opmcnts and production.

had said these assets were the security the first, intimation the intention to jjr Bennett. Sir Arthur is chair-nrt 7,7 ttH. v- rvRro (b) The possibility of reducing the ot Payments on loans and. had promised bring Britain into line with practice In c.aa. aen nra.

air Anna iscnair and structure of the War omce. that thsn. would ho no whittiino nra other rmiTitrm hut said ho rauid not ma? of. the Conservative Members i wfs Edet. Me (MA erv oav ana nigm vou can send almost an mna at aooas bv roac ''om Mjncnesfer fo London bv the well known Lloyd's Transport rvnU.

service JLonctone eniovine the tarne 'CRUlar service tc 'anchestei oevond LLOYD'S TRANSPORT fir WAREHOUSING CO. (MANCHESTER) LTD. 83 Warer Mancnater CN 4400 In London. Bermondsev 581 4 nemswr of thr TrnttoruHou Omsioai of the Hoy ft Packing Wwtthtm Grosia of CoMswmes generais, ana aoout juu lower raiiK Mr JOHN PROFUMO, Secretary of State for War, said that out of the 20 recommendations made by the committee, five were accepted with qualifications, only six were not accepted and The Ays amounting Man JJ for purges' -hoSd ti only SStSSS? Se 'ew now strongly the committee "1 LBe" the Deputy Secretary concerned to the nn hi as falry and on nis shoulders. COMMITTEE'S TERMS t.sfjsS's? of thNe Committee its terms of refir- ence had not DBCn decided.

The terms were, he said l. To examine the functions 01 the War Office, the organisation and dlstribu- tion of duties with it. and report to the Army Council 2. To roDnrt nwr-ificMlv nn (a) The organisation for formulating requirements of equipment and for tary officers, particularly in posts 'whose functions were of administrative rather than policy making nature (cl The Dractioabllitv of 'making more senior positions in the War Office open io civilians as wen as to miutarv omcers i rn the' War Office Uie committee should have regard for'the need to reduce total staff to a minimum, and so to arranee SS" i -V Si the distribution of duties as to allow the reDort and furtrfer Mamine aid reoort Vhi inN i wi nm 12 w2.1" 1 nreanfepd ana poninnpd mv it full full VTarV in tha7 i no to inform themselves of any posais tor cnanges in mis neid and oriw ials tor changes In this Held and driw iU-l recommendations. He rejected the accusation that they were Just creatine Jobs for officers and senior officials.

He did not think the size of his department could bo said to be self-evldenily excessive. The debate and and what was the least difficult autui.uu. uuju; iwuumiujl1 iu uiaunuiMi between 7he genuineness of one appli- i i n.t 1.1. i.v. anth.eil nPT do JTf gSJMS EtSEB rrixi.

5vei1 added With regard to the level attached Hlvlrlano'To "uieond0' Lrd. for the R-W. for officers, it would be the Air Secretary and for airmen, the Air Officer Commanding RAF Records. There. would ln lDe day that on the Continent larger vehicles were allowed than here.

and proposals now being considered to increase our maxima to facilitate traffic, without adding traffic6 present duScultics of roa3 i Lord Boothbv had asked whether. in view of the prevailing traffic con- estion. further limits could be on and lenSth of commercial vehicles. Lord Chesham said any reduction in the permuted size or weight would mean used congestion. A new Order had been made whereby any person proposing to move a load exceeding 14ft.

by 90ft. would have to obtain Ministry approval. It was too outVseemVd of these exceptional loads, which would otherwise have been freelv permitted on the roads, were having io be trans- portea in some omor manner. nrt "ii" Lord Boothby said that these great roads on? "efer'Ttralgn PTSS ditches or off the tmm altogether "in pVevaiiins HnSnci conditloS ot railways, is there not a case for setting these uncontrolled 'trains' off roads and back on the rails, which he Government could easily do?" jgy wootton was appalled to hear that the maxima was to be increased and -i there re timid SsPsIISwjSS enormous loads. Lord Lucas of Chilworth said this was ine iirsi.

intimation tney nao nan tnai the Mlnistrv vas allnwinrr larger vehicles. "This will be an affront to the public of this country, already increasingly alarmed at the growing size becofntTCenar rS conditions." dld noli.tn,-n. add much to what he had said. When Lord Boothby asked for a new look at this whole problem." Lord chesham replied that he would have no hesitation in lookine at It in the light Renovation work at Foreign Office might cost 2m. In a Parliamentary reply yesterday to Mr Jo Grimond.

Mr Geoffrey ffi i iv. 'F. SJr the Fd Offl' Hk about 1.500.000 or 2.00O.0O0. about Hnnnon or fonnnnnn Mtc "'n8 wren ws now apwito io. cost leasl raOO.OM and the Treasury at least 1.325,000.

'P items oi repair wont ana H12.aernl.sat.lon planned for the Foreign Office block wereT umFR m(l(-K U'DrP Renewal of heatina eouloment. Instal- lation of new radiators, and connection of the whole system to the Whitehall district healing scheme renewal of electric wiring; modernisation of sanitary services renewal of lifts and construc- tinn nf ttvn nam lifts mnAamlnttnn nf communication systems; redecoratlon throughout the building; repair of stonework. "In addition to the modernisation work, it is proposed to provide additional office accommodation, mainly by adding a new. noor Denina me exlsline facade" np aoaea ntis work, IncludlnB the addition Is likely to cost about f. Z.

mllliona. A more ttM precise ngure cannot Oe arrived at until "BLACKOUT" ON AN ADVERTISEMENT Reasons for censorship The Postmaster-General, Air Bevins aXSStUCwSk Lw consultation fflJfeJI-? under Section SI A nf tha Talavicinn a Mr Pavitt said the advertisement was lor a series oi articles in Sunday Citizen" entitled "The Rotten Belch" Mr Pavitt asked if the oarticulnr cap tion Of the Act referred tn hv th- Pnct. master-General provided for in adver tiser beine riven thp mii a-h nmh action hao been jakert He asked ibis because In this parUcular instance there has been "a complete blackout' by the Censorship Committee of the British Associarlon. Mr Bevins replied that the attitude of the British Poster Advertising Associa- on had nothing to do wltb Sim or with the Post Office. BBC TAXPAYERS' RIGHT The Estimates Committee recommended a committee of very senior mili tary and civilian officers to make an Intensive study of War Office organisa- i tion.

There should also be a comprehun. sive. review, oi tne system oi separate service headquarters. loTssSM Is tho mrwt -ffirient and that can be obtained and I am afraid the Minister's reply does not appear to recognise mis They we'e encoWed to think that encouraged to think that ch be under I .1 tat fiT.T tkir ir. which should be dealing with radical cnanges, was reauy a relatively junior fact-finding subcommittee which did not appear to have either the status or authority to take a fundamental look at oreanisation.

I'inMIn TflU'V fl Ell 1 1. Tl 1 1 hnltm I Mr Rippon's John Arbuthnot (C. i.Vjver) asked Mr Geoffrey Rlppon, Minister of Public worxs, wnai steps ne was taking to ensure that national, demands the construction industries were mnwt PAlntflH lha pannpitV SS.m,,-h.: romaien ann of the Industries. Mi Binnnn h.d economic intelligence unit to provide a -nrsi-ciass service oi suiusiicai ana economic information about the present and future capacity of these Industries c-j-r. 1.3m.

on Ji Th. Ascictant Pnermacrpr.iipn.rai tnM Mr Paul Channon (C. Southend that the Post Office had provided 1 million telephone subscribers with Sunscriber Trunk Dialling, representing nicre than a quarter of the total 1'hcy expected 70 per cent of all subscripts would have STD by 196S, and 90 per cent by 1B70. SEC policy Mr John Stonehouse (Lab. Wednes- bury) asked the Prune Minister if the public speech of the President of the isoara oi raoe to uie ruinev conservative wnrri ftTTrul.

trt tli PlifTWv rnncjirvatlvf- i r-r 1 1 e- a a a i a DIM KfXlMVJ of but for of Fighting men mark time Inquiry on Forces candidates members including the former Minister of Defence, Mr Harold Watkinson. and nine other former Ministers have signed a motion which convevs a veiled warning to Mr Macmillan not to come back from the Nassau meetine with President Kennedy without an "nre lnal Britain win retain an independent deterrent. Some may have. signed the motion the belief that lis publica- tion yesterday would strengthen Mr Macmillan's hand in his talks with the President. It also has the effect Of committing an influential element in VVh r'f "ouse of Commons to the retention an independent deterrent.

Yet Mr Macmillan warned the House last week mat tne oovernment intended to main- tam an independent deterrent if it The motion reads: "That this "se wishes the Prime Minister and 0M'ome tD the Nassau discussions President of the United States, particular, reference to this country determination to retain its own nuclear deterrent within the Western alliance." Support for the motion was collected on Monday after Mr Peter ThornevcrofL the Minister of mnad lombre sUtemem Mr Thorneycroffs statement was regarded by many Consetrative members as far from reassuring. Prinpinnl cnnncnrQ principal sponsors The principal sponsors of the motion Sl Vre "a' John Litchfield, Sir Richard Nugent. Mr John Mr David Renton, and Defence and Aviation Committees Mr rden is vice-chairman of the defence committee and chairman of its air subcommittee. Other officers of back-bench com nrittees who have sicned the motion are Sir Tufton Beamish (chairman, foreign affairs), Mr Ray Mawby (chair-man. jabour).

Colonel Lancaster (chairman, power). Mr Robert Cooke (chairman, broadcasting and communications). Lord Balniel (chairman, health and social security), and several officers of the Commonwealth committee Miss Vickers. Sir Peter Annew. Sir John In t0 Mr Watkinson.

the formed Mimsters who haviTiraeofare Sir RicT rd Nugent. Mr Renton, Si air rut. ra nueenL aar aeduhl air (who is alao a 01 tive ranyi, air Mannar mccous, air fenTbam VH. Ytami Patricia Rnrnshv. sna Bame Waa Mprnsoy.

amith. ANNOUNCEMENTS ST ANN'S CHURCH. Mnchester. TODAY. 1 15 pan CAROL SERVICE mtxr or witntccton mnr aonooa.

1 1 OF MANCHESTER. The City COunesi be retry rWe notice of their intenfloo to STOP UP and tNCUJSK Uw vnder-tnentioned street, way or paaamca under their powers in the Mannbester Ganeral lajnrtivematyl Act lBSl nsmaiy The c-jl-de-tac ponton ol Croeoiord Ooan. Man- ortester approzimaiefy 714 square yard to area to the west of Pre Cairy Dated this Sth amy of December UfO. PHILIP F. DINGLE Town qTE.

PITY OP MANCHESTER. Tne City Council hereby rrre notice of tfaeU latent too tn STOP UP and INCLOSE the atader-Txtiooed rreeta. ways or paaaajea ander thetr wen tn the Maaohettex General toaprovaaaiacit Act ISL1 oaxaely TnORTlURY STREET Bradford. BERWICK PLACE. Bradford Paiute No on the easterly aMa of Sedon Street.

Bradford eommencini at point US yards aottth of PMllpa para Road and proceed. tor yards easier lj direction to au cul-de aac end. Pastas No. 3 nanninar from the aovth aaatajrty corner of Bewwiek Plsoe tn an taatarty atracTJoa for aoalheny sloe at. Paaaaje 5vhday of Decenaoee 1M2 raiUP DlTCll Town Caark.

lnqmnes may be madt at toe City Burverue's Offlce Room 21B, Second Floor Towtj BaB isaa-obester 2 Any person axsrvrved cry the aavte atnppani ap may appeal to the CrowQ Court Manoheeter Notice of appeal abouM be ajtvea to the clerk of Jw Cxawto UaneaieT rnnrta of Jvmtlcm Ciuwu Sqbare Issnehester 3 within days Of tna date this notice and a ataienvot of trcwBda of UOUID 1 er a PITY Or MANCHESTER. The City Cbuneii hereby Hva aotfa of tteir intenrlon to STOP UP and DfCLOBB tha voder-mentioned street, way. or passate ondar their powers ln the Mancnesicr General UBcnrrtumA Act 1851 IVAN STREET Uasrhestcr Da red this 5th day of Decanber. usa. PBTLTP DINGLE.

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lift: Bartofc Rhapsody No. 3 for violin and Ij ANNOUNCEMENTS Lord Killearn COMPLAINT ON SUEZ PAYMENT Peer says pledge broken On the second reading in the House Of Lords yesterday of the Foreign CompensaUon BiU, LORD KILLEARN, who was British Ambassad0r to Eevnt durinu tho Sn World wlr id tht iw IrhfSfc 'S Suez victims British subjects were "thrown out on their ear without even thei t00thbrushes meir tootnorusnes. Sympathy then ran fairly high, Certain apUdt undertakings were giver, complete compensation. Seven, days later. Mr Sclw-yn Lloyd had given a picage aoout me s.

munona Egyptian House of Lords credit i sterling it. this country. He of this security. "ow things were different. 1 was brought up in a school where the word a private individual was worth some- The word of my Government wcu.i..

jiu live and learn. There have been several attempts to run away from the pledges." v.a,cr Government released 3 tgypiian creoii tuna. Sn' SfSSXSm? Suca should be made to repay their WneP loans were the P. B'Se 'absolutely on their "PPers." They had had to spind the SSS." .1" they had -y unu not nropcrlv bnefed." He was told that not nropcrlv bnefed." He was told that low estimate of British scheme prov raW. committee to eo into cases of hard.

shin I do lot think that I. rood enoueh." LORD ALEXANDER OF HILLS- BOROUGH thought the oressure broueht J-SHTf 1. time wb hSrf h'-S getting. 74M. IN LOANS LORD DUNDEE (Minister of State, Foreign Affairs), replying, said the number of loans made to claimants totalled 7.37B.438 and the amount taken 3 me amount of debt deducted from the awards to claimants aavanrpn ann tap nn fanaumanta Kart iului imu been made except by way of deductions r.mrr,t.

It ta rfi vm hnf" been nrodnet-rl m-V rfit; i. a ons llrne IO consiaer Se WL' ftlir InfrVlHLS'i DasScd lhr0URn The Summertime Order 1963 which "dow thai timV' oJSiw and end 0cober cuailCU nakedness of the countrv- rtofpni-o. Sf We have oeen ifhavln, DIrds aubsUtule display for defence, and tho disaster comes the turkey meets the nshtlne r. he Government had, been posturing unrcal nuclear capacity. At same time we nad forces wh we "'-armed, ill-disposed in a geoRraphlcal sense, and cnmripntiv rtir tS Ko n.a,,a.

aWa wS wnicn nas so signally failed ln everythine haaie he Ir.J?'5 Macleod. replying, said he did orinf'Po tte HoS "of 'i .1 'i SV1 1 'L' r0m" JSLPJ 5 mee.n? int iff JATJ fp'JL Vi? JZSiJS1 Ay to ei5? "ESS Ml5 -rJ15 shareholder informed on the matter When Mr R. 7 Paget (Lab SorthAmp- the Opposi nnFSs 111 witimu rcPea I am not able to Rive that assjirancc. now long negotiations look was a matter for the companies concerned. aWer.

Sne among all those who applied. It desirable to find a method to pul his nomination forward no matter what though; MEETINGS ON "SIX" knew of the meetings which were to lake place in a few weeks' time. There might be moments of considerable importance perhaps early In February, Defence matters were beina disciiscpri In the next few days by the US President. our rrime -Minister, me roreign secre- tary and Minister of Defence. It was alwavs possible for the House to be recalled.

It was done by representations made by Ministers to Mr Speaker The Government would be ready to consider any representation which Members miqht wish to put to them, Several Labour members rose to eon- tmue the debate and they protested loudly and vigorously when a Govern ment Whip moved the closure, On a division the motion to end the debate was carried bv 203 votes to 129 a Government majority of 74. A motion for the Christmas adjourn- ment was carried bv 101 votes to 22. a Government majorifv of 176 or OUnfsrrjzm two lfocsJ "Ucatel ftz tb bum and Bddresa of tfa aendrr. sad Uw cue ot nxAftctncsts oj the atcBstvns mmtt raavrUn. poctwc itampa or poctml order may be rat In pdytoenL Tnrw-i (VI aJSl OS1T1 "olwawo itannlln.

vv Protest at month's recess In the House of Commons yesterday Mr Henry Brooke, Home Secretary, in a statement on members of the armed forces seekine to obtain a discharge from th rvir. tn stnrt fnr Parlia. ment said inere was a rea, danger of ringing our system 01 rarnameniary elections into disrepute. and of an undesirable abuse Browin in the services." He did not say that to reintroduce the wartime system would be definitely wrong, but the House, would probably SFISSI Sa.H.ai. u.b.lic-.e.

it when the elecUon is over." An alternaUve was to say that appilca- lions to leave the service to contest an CWUUU WUUIU IK UCdlCU Ul ll ic taiDG way as applications to leave on any other non.compassionale ground. This would mean that a stated intention to contest an election would no longer be accepted as a reason for discharge In case where an application for discharge on other grounds would have been refused." Nor would such application be regarded as a ground for free discharge if dis- charge by purchase would otherwise have been appropriate. pprepn ic IMMEDIATE FUTURE deaT-wlUie ET2 1 "em adminUtratlve approach 1 have outlined. At the same lime we propose a select committee of the House of Commons be appointed to study the whole problem and to report to the House whether or not members of the armed forces should continue to oe treated as they are today and whether. If any aJteratlons are proposed, these would have reper- cussions In any other categories of the public ine uovemmem would oe natpy to discuss the precise terms nf reference of the committee and then to table a motion immeaiaieiy 14 inai uiey were quite willing accept the proposal to sel up a select commit, tee and to discuss the terms of refer.

ence. 3S far as tho could He Skcd Mr BrinS tn mak, it r. new unit Common Market represented the policy the Government. mna. uuer, rirsi oi State and Deputy Minister.

replied tlnn ihnnt Rl-lQlna nnt-. we wanted terms and conditions ori which we could honourably accede. Aden police strength Mr a Elliott (C. Newcastle upon Tyne asked the Secretary oi State the Colonies what he was takine to tmnrove the effidencv of the Vi I Police in Aden. air Nigel Fisher said In a written reply: "Proposals for immediate strengthening the police have been agreed and the Government wdl give financial towards this.

An advance of up to 9500 will be made from the Civil Contingencies Fund." TODAY'S BUSINESS ujx.ui; urn ait on-porauocu bui rmutniai kmo. muhb ctsuai African poller Lots uticwHi. cohmoms: ccnertj enm ortiem us Tnumuonti kkwvvi iooti- ij. 01 swi a rs. w- a i AfVU UCMI ri DEATHS continued 1 NIHMUNP-On Deceaaer 11 in nuaprju.

L1LUA DOKOTUY ated Tl raxa. owtber of Beate and nc Toe serviee will take place at sasioesncKi Craioniim on Tbunday at 2 P-m No flowers ttj request. Donations to Cancer Itelte? Al inqulnej to Wadawenn and Soo I Beccr. Lai dc. ZdaccieafleleN Trt lUocwanetd 1307 VRBOBU W.

On Decemtaei la al'et iOCf uinea pauently Dome, at Ua residcnoe Brookdafc Wensiey Road CbeatLe WILL ERNES! very deal husband ol Onruof HAREOBOW and Iovhik rather of Eron: RrtnjbojoujD iWirraii PuiMem. priTst family aod leLa.Wea only Ko flowers, by Ms soeoal requosi. plaaar. All laqturies to Jooathan Alcoek and Sons Lid TH GAT 2097 HYDK. On DecemDer 18 at ma borne 51 Crescen' Road.

Sou Uj port WILLIAM HENRY sled 5S years dcTOtad busbaod of Gladys HYDE Ministry at auppiy war uuer uevmrtama. unniuoa ai menoj lowers and laqQirtes to ceorce Gouioer ana Sou SO Everma Roed Soathport Tei Sella On Degwi.por lS ilea at Buxton MARCAREl ANNift tied so yean Deferred wire 01 the late Jota WUaam JELLY and dear mother of Marfarei ifornscrly ol Pendletool Fnneral a Stockport on Ttmraday. Deoetnber 30 at 11 B.m. This is tnt only intHnaHos inijnlrt to re ratal Tet Bnstoa 38 KsUJKUlwsnL---Oa nepenber is. 1K2 boo4tai and of Camelot.

Lelcaater Road Raft, joan axed SS yeirs. the dearly loved V.fe of Bans KROelBCRGlTR. Serrtoe and eommttxai at ARrincrram Cretnaiori tan on Friday. December 21 at SO Pan. Inquiries to Worthtnrtona Tei ALT 19U.

Deoember 17. at nia reatdenoe AahJea CatrnUl Road Moaaiey EDWUSD. aied C9 yeara. SerrJoe and IntaraaenI At Moasley parish CnnrcfJ on Friday Denraaber 21. at 1 45 i33 SiMSHS-s uosiurr uerf nmri smioe sw faaBaSrS'ir L'rS'jJfr41 Ulie a 00 it km.o,, soShS tsSLs'saoteS -la's giaSSJf', loguirMt id CTCKioro ana aoas wiuw uot.

iiy. aerwitre saaocnesteT at a No floweis. by request All i no times to Meaars muu jaaiBC iuju A rs u-) SANDEB8. On Deoembar 17. Bra WlLUAM TBOMAS SANDERS fOOhder member Zaodre of Good loteni tb 702 and late of Fervency Lcdf No.

SSdt WTII brethren pfease aw Hancnexcr irnaaionuia at la amsle clrcuraotsnees. MINNIE beloved wife of ovmrj. ue707 nawDeo or ocr arm niawano atstera. brottiera. slat era-In-law.

brothers-in -law releetvea, aod Meoda Prayara st Cabley Road SUfbrd T. on Wedneaday. Tntirsoay and Freday only. TAYLOB. On Dsoenber 18 at her bona.

27 The Drm. Prestwleb. ELEANOR, aged 82 years, the dearly loved wife af tha 'late Francis Wardie TAYLOR- Service and committal at Sal ford Ofaj rort tun en Friday December 21. at 12 ar p.m. Inquiries to Kenneth Balky.

A F-D Tel PRE 1071 WILCOX. On Deorrnhrr is 19G3. DORIS (nee Kardlacnamt ajred rears wife of the hue Chart WilMam WILCOX of Stretford and Sale Service sod orxnawal at Manchearer Crematorluni on Friday December 21. at twelve noon AU iMiara-a to cezt (WJmftlowi ud. Tei.

WUanaiow 3360. AeknowiedjpnenU Mrs OBtfTTTHS and Brother wish to espraas theti sincere tna nas to all the maay kind meads reVattvea. and business asaocUtes, aus ot Ceom Oates and Oornpany. and the Soilcuors1 MananoK Cleria' Asaocfatlon for -thetr kindness Trnpactty fetters of oofoeace and beautiful aoraf trtbutes recetved to '-Nrtr sad losr. also the Rev Plummet fo kind the incmnecs of airch Sreet Meihotrist Cnapet and all who aJ radt-d the service.

11 Burcslde Drive Maac-tester 9 HI OMEi The Pamy of the late ARTHUR l.LCHSS wtah to thank ai! friends and ooljeartica to' jirtr kind fetters of srmnatby and coodoienop and for ibe beautiful floral reepiTPd tn Atetr sad bereavetnenl 11 Waterpark Road fhirord T. Mr W. W. nWIVDEU-S and Fam'ly desire to convey their very afnoare thansa ro all friends and nefchnoars. and friends at SHXL.

for -bnr kind expressions of sympathy aad bonfui floral trtbofea norfveif dnrtnc their very sad bercsvenn alvo the staff of Bwaotn RU1 Rrxtsl for he.r kind care aad attention: and the Rer. J. a Dean for tv-s Mod nuntstmtkms. d2 Kecatnrton Road CbeaiUr Heath. Stockport.

In Memonam MA KIN. Bi-er-pTfsent tnemorkes ot my dear axrirter SARAR. of Oldham whA dted Deeetnber If and of my fatbex JOHN wrao died Ieeaeaber 14 ltfi Harrop OAd Colwyn. INTKKFIjURA reL KABtANS, Mc BLA 1474 at WEaaaua MM. AVca.

ooanad TaL I BIRTHS MXIh--0n DMember 17. at Home, to ViviN tzfr VeaMmi arad IAN. a arQ (Martin Crala). imzUD. Oo 11.

at Edavaxe Corai Hospital. MMdteMX to CITA (nfe StUennaui and TOJ-OCY. a tea 90 BroadAeVda Avnu EdcwaK OAIXOWAT. Oa Deembn 18 a. Wyodac Nurau Koco.

BraiahaU RITA MALCOUC a dAottater OUEVES-SMITH. On Deormbei to JUNE iae Orwta) and STEPHEN, a soo UoaaHiaa Mak HAM LET. Oa December IS at AabtOD aader Utm Coerml RoapUal to S1IXII-A BRtXrLS to OiTtW) and JOHN ILUa HAKTIXV a dtafdkLCT Claire Jao). 13 York Road. Denton FOWE.

Ob December 10 at HoitMvok auemlty Home. Dtxtrshlre to VALERIE asd CSORCS. a dattahcer ireUdcy Ann S-bw 'hanks ID tht nunrtnc COMING Ol- AGE OKAY. Mr and sirs CRAY nave p-taajnie in vnntiodLOM tbe oonMng ste of Uietr joooccr soo. C3ARLS A3HTCXS.

oa December is. 2 Broofclsoda House BooocUnda Romd, SaUe. ENGAGEMENTS IKlUMi Q1UUWI. The iatMeeaau anoouooed t-et-fO lOUR VRANcoa naowot ton ot cfM uce F. BR1XRLXY sad ATI.

B-irilT of Beacoo Botm. Whxiley Aoad. 8tisoDS(oo. Dear Burn 147. 4nd.

SUSAN DALLWY tdr dAucta'cr of Mar a ad an W. CRE1H. ot Lanfwith. TIM Drive. Ba RhyddlBg inue? CXAWraEil-lIXEsL'TlM- eararcKicxK axvotxioced bstweatt JAMS3 ROGER, son of Mx and Ura.

Ttonald CRAWFORD ol Newtands Hckj, Gbesdlc CAeabira aod PINKLCWS. ooAj oauataier of str and DCra Goroos afllXXR. S3 Hub Bcrert. TerXrdD Kent IwVXTV HEMMEaUlLXGUt. Tb tm faP PAU1.

RUG Rev. aod Mrs Srtc LA3TD Wonhls. and SARAB HSLTi, daosanr oi aar aaa aira unarMa i lTCM3fTR2nNGfIt 17 fJararu Annue. Wonfalot. MARRIAGE COTTON ITfUlX On Deoeasber IS at Macrtwatar STOAXofaa 0 BrtlUb Jews.

DAVID SIMON. SDH of Mr sad sirs J. COTTON, ot Eton Court. Eton Avcaoc. London N-W 3.

to at ART S. II. KURXR. antubter of Dr and sirs Knrer, The Orchards. Edae Lsae Chorttoo-ain-Isardy 3Canclestij 31 SILVER WEDDING Mr IS 137, al st i Park, alah krnriitn ULUY to JOYCX PACE Pfwseat addreai 14 Ctouoesfer Road.

BhrkdaV. UtocaaTitre DEATHS BAJtCXAi DMNeinber VI. a. Browsstow. Groal Bud worth.

Cbeshlre. JOHS WILLIAM NOTOT BARCLAY, axd sT Tears tae very dear iMubaad of Mary Lor da iBunnyi and father of Luanda. Toooter aon ot Late Sir Noton and Lady BSaTcUj. Oretnaaoo onvue. follo-awd by a aaonorUl Srvce al Uobberle; Pimh CrtnroT.

onax row (Tnundsyl tt.pm. No flowers please 17. sot bar diuftxer's rr(dtc 3KAL, M.tJB.. of aiacaritsier and St Anoea on sea. Cl tu a "too ai CarVtna Blackpool, oa Riur0A7.

Decemlxr 30 at am BECXETT. Oa DfcrmWr 13 1SC3 aaddenlr as tne rasult ef a road acat ARTHUR ROGER, utd ai lean, of Slud? Hallow Toft Road Knaisford tne deartr laved ton of VI and ltve BECXEVr Serrtof at Traft Piiiw Chu-ch KnuiaTord tW day iWedoesdaji at 1 prior to cpTTirn Viral al tne AHrtrcriarD Cvmiotlua. at 2 as SpraTa only olea IrxjuLlra knd Oowers to Tbomaa JObiiJon and Co Td nu'afo-d 4251 BRIEKLEY. Co Deeetnoer II at 1 Uld.and Road Sraaarmll. A1VMS In bnr Ord rear tr dearlr loved wife of ttit face rteOrrt Lomaa BRJTERLKY and dear aaothor of sCarr fiemce m.x tne SAock-port Creraatenunj en prfday December 21 at twarlTe noon.

Icq ivnea to Barrr iu iIKockoorti ud. th. srro rraj arrd ste 1153 'J 111 -y DOROTHY X1LEXN CURTIS sid SI years deAOy loved atatee of Fred. sCartei. and Ma-rjorie Fuocral at afejior Court, on rjeceaobee 10 at twelve noon InQalrtea to Radsoa Bxoa.

Tel. Maiale 01. OUCNN-On Oeoetaacr 17. la a aorsina nom and of InnUfrM. RtwH aeneet Bradford a.

fate of Qoeeojbury ALLBC. atB Ch.B., wcU-beiOTed ntaand of KeU WV1 frWnda olease meet al CHjtcn Partafa Cbvpcti Clanoa Bnidfcrd. on fjrtdsr at a tn for serrkie nrfcrr to prlrst no mouroakc. Brammster. Pniwoall Road Reston Mersey 3CARY veer desrt loved wife or the law RletMrrf EdMr HALUrfT Xoienneo! at Willow Qnree Cesictar on Friday at twelve noon Family nowers only, ailcsae.

Iimlrwa tn Ceom Ball and Son. Trt. BXA am and 3ST1. rrv NORTHERN (Granada) 15 p-Bs. Wei ah 9 Zoo Time.

25 Hawfeeye. 54 News Cieaosnnon. 25 People and Places. 7 Take a Letter. 7 JO Coronation SEraat.

9 Rawhide, a News 9 IS Dtckie Henderson Show. 45 The Can; Sbow It 45 unit tbe papers Say sew Jl 5 sep Beyond. 11 45 Close NORTH-EAST (TTT) At North extwptt 1 p.m. News. 2 2 Oac O'Oock Show.

1 45-1 47 S.R Sews. S5-5 55 Happy Go Loeky. 5 Vews 4 15 Rouadkboat lt.7 Disca A Go Go. 11 2 state Trooper. ll it Epdlsrw.

dose. ukan m- iin wnen Mr lain Macleod, Leader of House, proposed yesterdav that the CommonE should adinum until snoum aojourn until January 22. a number of members opposed the motion. rv.nn.a ni "rnDGSf b- waf foin PSSt a Jani.fSf.a0,1 f.0! Je with a opternmem all of whose policies wHElosT "Sft -f-Tt- gg Legge-Bourke (C Isle ol EM wanted id lsmn that no final LJnTalierfns atrS.SSaMrd to Independent nuclear deterrents would be taken during the adjournment. Mr Michael Foot (Lab Ebbw Vale) said the House oughi to have a further statement before the recess about the proposed take-over bid by Stewarts and Lloyds of the Whitehead Iron and Steel Company.

CRITtCflW Mr W. Yates (Con. The Wrekin) asked future It uecame necessary for the Foreien Secret rritioca a mnhn '5 6e ROUJ.d endeavour to membiKah'v-ierS 5 i -hV 7 nbsent country; When SSS SprSJlTO'ma members of that group. it. i 1-j dale) said it was absurd that members from orth-cast Lancashire should con- template taking over a month's holiday 'ncn mn' tncir constituents were In enforced idleness He also wanted an the structure of "Jie House nu me way it conauciea pusmcss He urged that the Government shouid propose coming back from ihe recess a earlier Mr Svdnev Silverman (Lab N'elson god Colne) said the of -Jie Board of Trade had refused to receive a deputation from local members t.

dis- cuss unemployment in an area whlc.i was special! hard hit I am not pre- oared for the House to go Imn recess for a month until the President has undertaken to end this gross cbdication of his responsibilities." Mr R. T. Paget (Lab. Northampton) from the Opposition front btnch refer- ring to Skybolt said the House was being asked to adjourn at a time when the fecUy plain that the measures proposed io i made bv mpmKf cf SlanJdln not 0c used such a wav that 3 memoer of the tions he thought bolh sides were agreed inV.nina Government ji the House, and he would that if there was one iust candidate any genuine candidate would And It 0V, "irHicise irTSS amnni" was 1 p.aB (Welsh Transmltteri and Botmc Moas Sotton Coidfieid. Cryiia) Ps'ace)-News id Webb and MatazlDe 1 SS News I as Matazlna.

is watch Wltb Mother 5 Animal Masle. i SS Whlrirolrda 5 News Recionai News nuckaefl's House. 5 TonLthL 1 29 News Cam. Sports Renew of 1962. 13 News 3 5 Zero Coe Like Music it is Rcfions Procrsxama.

1 The Sky at NlrftL I News II It Weatsr. 11 It-ll Wei an Transmit-ten and Hoim Moss, ColdHeld Crntai Pa'are)- The Sure HOME SERVICE 4t a.m.: Farm Bulletin. 50: UH Up Your Haarta. 55: Weather 7 News 7 Pro-pymmea 7 Today 25: Today's 7 Shoppint Use 7 Uti Up Your Hearts I Stm Iff; PrttTaniines IS: Today Today' Papers i sncpiSK ut I PsrUamrac Nrwi It: Talk IS: sufc notta reetsJ 5. treenrdi it 13: Semce It ils HWc While You Work 11 t-tioert lonjt recital 11 15: Ccrdonstoun 8am Dance II 31 Farmiax II 55: 1 SewJLl l0: The nrtax Doctor Srl Micwea 1 1: Orchestral Ctoooen Plav Soufeair" 4 Choral Evensont 4 15: Talk i Vt Ttl 01 Mr Tirsy-wmsJe IS: Ctouatertpy 1 55: Weather News 'IS: Ra-fsooa: Ne-a 7 Bras Band Pfd.

Records i MewJab Part 1 55: fatrrvai 10: Meauan Par- It New Commrci it Th Divine InvaaloD I ParflasKDl It S3 vras-Srr II Me; Serlsl 11 15: Music at Nlairt II dose REGIONS Miaur.3 7 ft-7 IS Renonsl News I Proffranrunea it: Retlonal Sews I 15-S 55: Review 4 15-s I pa: Flute and PU-w -7 Sisnpcat rotu.h. it ScoClisb New 15- is Mmint Can a Seottisb Music U-lt 45.7 st Programmes I It: of WaVn. I U-s js: Records. I M- ra Frr ttse YounsHK ListeneTs M-7 Brsias Trust more difficult to stand for Parliament. There should also be absolute quality of opportunity bceen oUr rank? comSUnnedofflrsen EJToinSSlfSS? stand to support the Government, The Home Secretarv assured Mr Brown Vi ilffi.Sf "I31 Fmfn5in" pHlf.ant H.tm ..12 PS? ha.SLnn?-?1'?.?' opportunity as between officers and other Er fulfil Ka artnaH 1.1 i possiDie.

io set up VSS ihe. ana ll could, If It nlshed. sit during the a.S5 the Liberal leader asked if it was intended that the sug- gested procedure should apply to those who had already put forward their Mr Brooke said that with regard the immediate byelections a cumber of applications had been received hut there were no releases in any case, and what we had to consider was how hold the position until the select committee of the whole House could examine the situation.