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18 THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN, FRIDAY, JULY 14, 1933 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR STOP-PRESS NEWS PUBLIC SCHOOLS' THE METHODIST CONFERENCE 'A. DOMESTIC INTERIOR By S. L. Bensusan THe '-clean, tidy kitehen-lrvfng-rctom Lively Debate on Proposal that Future Clergy Wives be Approved of Mr. and Mrs.

Stuttle's cottage on THE GERMAN SCENE Concentration Camps for Political Prisoners To the Editor of the Jlanchetter Guardian. Sir, I have just returned from a ten days' visit to Germany, which I made 70 DROWNED ON THE VOLGA Reuter'a iloscow -correspondent telegraph; this morning that 70. bodies have been recovered from the Volga, following the sinking of a boat carry-iug 250 passengers. The boat' is stated to have been overloaded, and the persons responsible are to foa prosecuted. would have its share but no undue share.

The 500,000 appealed for was not a maximum but a minimum. The committee's report on the fund was adopted. court, apparently for exercise. They were not accompanied by any guards, and as they walked they talked freely to one another. There were Nazi guards at the three exists to the courts.

We approached one of the groups, and our interpreter invited us to put any questions we desired to the men. We ascertained that among these men were several Communist deputies and many former aldermen and councillors of municipal authorities. The chief official who had come with us from Berlin left us to talk with the prisoners through our interpreter. As we had been informed there were about 800 prisoners altogether and we had only seen about 200, we asked where the others were, and the men said they were in their rooms reading, playing games, or resting. We expressed a wish to speak with some of the ex-members of Parliament, and the police official.

who had now returned, said "Certainly." He conducted us to a part of the prison building where the cells were smaller than the ones we had seen and were arranged DAY AT BISLEY Ashburton for Scotland GLENALMOND'S FINE FINISH ElBLXT, ThTJBSDAT. In the worst weather conditions experienced on Ashburton day at Bisley for some years past, Glenalmond Trinity College to-day won the schoolboys "blue riband" of the shooting world, the shield presented in 1861 by the first Baron Ashburton. It was hard-earned victory in which two other teams looked likely winners, and while good all-round team shooting was shown, the biggest part was played by Sergeant A. W. Easton, who scored 67 out of a possible 70 points.

At the 200 yards range Glenahnohd's aggregate was 23G, and by extremely fine shooting at 500 yards they scored further 251 and ended with a grand aggregate of 487. Although this was not a record score it was the highest since 1925, when Lancing carried off the prize with a similar total. As a permanent memento of their win to-day Glenalmond were presented with silver medals by the National Kifle Association. Bole Hill: Green. A good fire is burning in the stove, a kettle is singing, the table is laid for the evening meal.

Following a long day's work that has exhausted a very modest stock of Mrs. Stuttle, a sour, harsh-faced woman whp looks most unpleasantly. efficient, is attending to the needs of a. frying-pan that holds sausages, sliced potatoes and onipns, and two very large pieces of bread. The cuckoo comes out of the top of the clock; against the wall -and sounds six notes.

ITbs. Stuttle' (to the frying-pan) He'll be late agen, I lay. Wants his wittles soon as his coat's off o' his back, an' whiles that's six, an' whiles it nearer ha past. We.wimmin. gotter lotto put up with, to my thinkin'." She shakes the pan roughly until it splutters agreement.

A heavy step is heard along the garden path. Mr. Stuttle, the Tenant's gardener, lifts the latch and comes in whistling, a large brown-paper bag in his hand. He is a heavily built, shifty-eyed, middle-aged man, with unkempt, reddish stubble round his face. He is in cheerful mood.

Mb. StuttIiE "Evenin', mate. I gotter dozen tomaties in this here bag an' I'd gotter stop to peck an' choose 'ein. Didn't. I'd ha' bin here ten minutes agoo." Mrs.

Stcttle (with marked indifference): "Do ye wipe y'r fet. I've washed th' owd floor over once to-day." Mb. Stuttle (a little annoyed) All right. You don't wanter keep on." Mbs. Stuttle (in.

aggrieved tone) "That's what I gotter be doin', ev'ry day o' me life. If it ain't cookin' an' cleanin', it's clearin' up arter you." 'Mr. Stuttle looks at the frying-pan and holds his peace. He feels that a quarrel can wait and that sausages He goes to the scullery, pumps water into the bowl, washes noisily, and comes back, just in time to receive a well-piled plate, followed by a breakfast cup of strong tea. For the next i enty minutes there is neither silence nor speech.

Then Mr. Siuttle lights bis pipe and Mrs. Stuttle clears the table. 11b. Stuttle (with an attempt at geniality) Bin up street Mbs.

Stuttle (contemptuously): "A letter time I got f'r ter goo up street, an' washin' day an' all." Mb. Stuttle (still striving): "Well, well, happen you'll goo up street to-morrer." Mrs. Stuttle (sourly) Yes, an' git back to me pots an' pans. I can't goo set in th' Dog an' Duck an' fuddle meself an' waste good money." Mb. Stuttle (a little nettled) You can't get fuddled on a pint o' beer, to my thinkin'." Mas.

Stuttle (with increasing sourness) That ain't to say ye wouldn't if ye could." Mb. Stuttle (definitely annoyed): You're a misbehowden woman, ever 1 see. There ain't no pleaBin' ve." Mbs. Stuttle (swiftly): "Nobody never see Jarge Stuttle try to please anybody 'cept it was hisself, that I know on." Mb. Stuttle (with dignity): "That ain't no use f'r nobody to try to please a jaggeim' woman.

Telly f'r why. She'll keep all on a jaggerin'. There's on'y one thing f'r a man to do." Mbs. Stuttle (sidling up to the long-handled broom with evil intent) "An' what's that, pray?" Mb. Stuttle (rising and reaching thn garden door with a celerity born of long practice) Go an' set along o' decent folk an' tnlrn rlifs rm mVsMt Mrs.

Stuttle has hesitated for a fatal moment, and before she can assume the offensive Mr. Stuttle has gone. Thereupon she retires to the scullery and attacks the tea-things and finally the frying-pan with savage determination. Order being completely restored, she sits down by the fire. There is a knock at the door, and Widow Mace, a near neighbour, old, grey, and sharp-featured, lifts the latch.

Widow Mace I see your man Kooin' down th' lane, Tilda, so 1 thought mebbe I'd come an' set along o' you f'r half an' hour." Mbs. Stuttle (in surprisingly friendly tones) Come along in, Jine." Widow Mace (reflectively): "A woman don't wanter spend all th' evenin' be herself." Mbs. Stuttle (bitterly) If she bin an' merried Jarge Stuttle, she can't same as help herself. He on'y come in to swaller his wittles an then he's off to th' Dog an' Duck to fuddle Widow Mace (reminiscently) ''My Joe'd come an' set be th' fire an' gimmick along o' me most all th' evening', if so be he hadn't a job in th' garden. Mbs.

Stuttle (in explanation of a phenomenon): "There's husban's an' husban's. Some on 'em ain't no good whatsomenever there ain't 'no pleasin' 'em. Jarse Stuttle's one o' sech." (With indignation). "I bin washin' an' cleanin all day. Then I cooked him a supper what th' Squire'd ha' bin glad to set down to, an soon as ever he'd goffled it, he run outer th' house to th' Dog an' Duck.

Never waited to pick up his cap." Widow Mace (in astonishment): Git over me." Mbs. Stuttle (with bitter conviction): "Nobody 'ouldn't b'lieve it. There's some men don't desarve a good wife. She's same as wasted on 'em." WOMAN'S FRAUDS ON TRADESPEOPLE Bogus Businesses Sentence of three years penal servitude was passed at Leeds Assizes yesterday on a woman who admitted having obtained 2,793 from tradespeople in Birmingham and Leeds by false pretences. She was Alice Walker (41), a Birmingham waitress.

She admitted nineteen charges of false pretences. It was stated for the prosecution that Walker obtained the money as the result of inserting advertisements in newspapers for partners in bomis mohevlendine and drapery businesses supposed to exist in uirmingnam ana later in in au she obtained 2,793 in cash and 435 in credit. 1 In a voluntary statement made by Walker she said she started to gamble when she lost 700 belonging to herself and her partner, -who left her to get married. She was in such a difficulty that she sold her drapery business, which was worth lor 4U, and had paid 1.200 to in respect of bets. A detective inspector said Walker, who was 'married at 17, was left at 24 a war-widow with five children.

She squandered all the' money she had fraudulently obtained on dog and horse racing, and had spent at one time as much as 100 a day on horse-racing. When the first conference of the Methodist Church, reunited, was resumed at Central Hall, Westminster, yesterday one of its first acts was to instruct that a message of sympathy, coupled with the hope for speedy recovery, be sent to the Bishop London in his illness. Introducing the report of the Methodist Commemoration Fund (whose aim is the Rev. E. Aldom French, secretary pf the fund, said the purpose of the fund was to complete the plans of union and make it effective.

To unite ihree great Churches, especially con-nexional Churches, inevitably meant adjustments and rearrangements that could only be made by the assistance of connexional financial help. Among their problems was that of providing for newly built areas, a difficulty that would be accentuated in the immediate future if, as they hoped, slum clearance was tackled with determination. The Kev. C. Ensor Walters, secretary of the London Mission, expressed deep anxiety concerning Methodist finance.

The need for the fund and the grayity of the situation, he thought, were not sufficiently realised. What we want in Methodism," he said, is a war chest. Unless we go in for aggressive work we may in the next few years retreat. We are selling chapels (under the rearrangement necessitated by reunion) that ought to be kept for institutes. We are getting rid of redundant places that may be wanted.

The Methodist Church ought to be etirred to provide 1,000,900 as a war chest for aggressive work. This is a grim business. Use of the Fund Mr. George Knight, of Bournemouth, asked for the publication of an emphatic denial, which, he said, he had already received privately, of the report that all the money they hoped to get had been already earmarked, allocated, and mortgaged, and that certain large sums had been agreed upon to be voted to this, that, or the other department. Many men and women in the North and in the South were, he said, hesitating to support the fund because ol that mistaken report.

Sir Harold Bellman, one of the connexional treasurers, replied We are able to report specifically that there will be no special allocation from the fund without the full consent of the departments concerned. The whole object of bringing on to the fund committee representatives of all the departments and of all the districts is to secure that equity prevails through all the allocations." Sir Harold pointed out that the allocation of 7,000 to meet the claims of the small, number of ministers who went out from the Uniting Church was an essential grant that must be made to meet the circumstances of the moment. Sir Robert Perks, the veteran Methodist leader, remarked I had something to do with the raising of the Million Guineas Fund in the Wesleyan body. We knew exactly what it was going to be used for. That is a feature which I gather from the discussion seems to be totally absent from the programme which you propose, and I would urge upon the committee if the committee is going to sit again upon this egg that they should try to discover some method of meeting that first necessity.

A weak point of this scheme appears to be that the first appropriation of the fund, big or little, is to be devoted to the needs of the ministers of our Church. We cannot expose our Church to the criticism that the parsons have looked after themselves first and left everything else to take care of itself." He would strongly recommend that the committee which was to deal with the various appropriations should not put what he described as the first charge" of 200,000 in the position in which it had been placed hitherto. Let them decide the four or five objects to which the fund was to be devoted. Mr. Aldom French, replying to the discussion, said that the fund committee did not say that the 200,000 was a first charge.

It was one of the conditions on which union was based that it should be provided. The 200,000 was not exclusively for ministerial funds, but for finances generally. Every district ALLEGATIONS OF CORRUPTION South Wales Inquiry In the House of Commons yesterday, Mr. TEMPLE MORRIS asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Education whether his attention had been called to charges made regarding alleged payments by candidates for school appointments in South Wales, and if he would cause an inquiry to be made into the allegations. Mr.

RAMSBOTHAM (Parliamentary Secretary, Board of Education) replied that the President of the Board of Education had no information as to alleged payments by candidates for school appointments in South Wales beyond references which had appeared in the press. He was confident that any local education authorities against whom these allegations were made would make searching inquiries. He understood that one authority had already instituted an inquiry. There was nothing before the President to justify hi3 intervention at present. Mr.

TEMPLE MORRIS further asked whether the attention of the Minister of Health had been called to the allegations made at a meeting of the Monmouthshire Education Committee that members of the Monmouthshire County Council had received money in bribes, and if he would order an inquiry into the matter. Sir E. HILTON YOUNG replied that he had read with concern the allegations made in connection with the work of the Monmouthshire County Council. A sub committee had been appointed by the Education Committee to investigate the allegations. He hoped that in the public interest they would press forward their task and make an early report.

He would then decide upon what action it might be necessary to rage consultation with the Minister of Education so far as education work was concerned. WORLD CRUISE HONEYMOON AS WEDDING PRESENT Mrs. George Wood, formerly Miss Joan Halsey, the elder daughter of Admiral Sir ZioneI Halsey, Comptroller to the Prince of Wales, who was married at Old Warden, Beds, on May 28, sailed with her husband yesterday in the liner Duchess of Bedford from Liverpool on a world cruise honey moon. Sir Lionel and Xady Halsey and Miss Bath Halsey went aboard to see the couple off. The trip is a wedding present to the bride groom from, his grandfather, Mr.

G. V. MeCorquodale. of Balchroy. They will visit Quebec and Montreal, take ship across the Great TVea, and stay a night" at the Prince 01 wates rancli in Aioerta.

Tney will after' wards go on to Sew Zealand' and. Australia. and return to England in January. together with a friend a well-known public worker of long experience with the object of getting a first-hand impression on the cpot of what has actually happened in Uermany. I arrived in Berlin on June 27.

and after three days of interviews and inquiry I went, on the invitation of a friend, to Konigsberg, the capital of East Prussia, and a little over four hundred miles to the east of Berlin. The dav after mv arrival at Komtra- berg I obtained permission to visit the prison which has been improvised to accommodate the political prisoners in the Drovince of East Prussia. The prison, which is situate on the outskirts of the city, was, previous to tne war, used as a barracks for soldiers. The buildings are surrounded by broad earthworks, which were no doubt intended for defensive purposes. Between the buildings and the earth works was a belt of grassland, with trees and foliage, some twenty yards wide.

We were met at the entrance to this fort or barracks by four officials, two of whom were in uniform and two in civilian dress. The chief official, in a vfry smart blue uniform, was evidently an important military police officer. After entering the barracks we were taken to see and ask the prisoners any questions we might desire. One of the police officials, who was in civilian dress and who spoke English quite well, explained that this building was not adapted for prison purposes and that the prisoners were not intended to stay for long periods there. He said that their cases were being examined, and some were released each day if the authorities were satisfied that they would not oppose the regime.

Those who were not to be released would be transferred to the concentration camps such as Sonnenberg, which' I afterwards visited. He said since March 400 had been brought into the Konigsberg prison and that at the time of our visit there were 250. He also said that nine men had been brought there the previous day. We were first taken down some stepB to a broad underground corridor, and on one side of this corridor were a number of doors which were heavily barred and locked. The Nazi Brown Shirt who accompanied us with the officials unlocked one of the doors, and on entering we found some sixteen men, standing mostly alongside a table, where some of them had been playing draughts.

The room was fairly spacious, and there were beds with mattresses and rugs against the two sides. The room was well lighted, and a large window looked out on to the grass and trees between the building and the earthworks beyond. What impressed one about the men was the immediate and sudden way in which they all stood rigidly to attention immediately the dcor was opened. Almost without exception these men gave one the impression of concentrated bitterness and resentment at their lot. We were permitted to ask, through our interpreter, what their occupations were, and we found that most were artisans.

Two were peasants, one had been a teacher, two shop assistants, and the others skilled artisans or labourers. We asked about food and bedding, and they said they had no complaint to make about either. I returned from Konisberg to Berlin on Sunday, July 2, and on Monday afternoon I was permitted, together with two American journalists, to, visit one of the largest camp3 for political prisoners at Sonnenberg. This camp is situated about 75 miles to the northwest of Berlin. We travelled by a motor-car "and were accompanied by an interpreter (a Dr.

amidt), who had Jived in America for many years and who, although a member of the Nazi organ isation, was not an othcial but only a voluntary worker. We were also accompanied by an important official from the Secret Police Service Depart ment, who was in civilian dress and Tode alone in a second car. The camp at Sonnenberg is organised in what was formerly a State peni tentiary. It is situate in rural country. The formation is rectangular, with the prison buildings and administration offices forming the four sides of the rectangle and a very snacious court exercise ground about three acres in urea in the centre.

We were informed that at the time of our visit there were about 600 nolitical prisoners no criminals in the prison. Nearly all the prisoners were said to be Communists, but on beinc Dressed specifically the official in charge said the number included about forty Jews and a number of social Democrats. Among the prisoners were several Communist members of Parliament and also mem bers of town and district councils. Sonnenberg is the kind of concentration camp to which are taken the men who have been seized by the Nazis and first taken to a Brown House or a local prison, and after some kind of examina tion not by a court of law but by Nazi officials it is deemed necessary to detain indefinitely. Durine our visit we saw auuut musy iresn arrivals DrouRUTj 1 1 1 I 1 I in and lined up in the great central square for examination before being allocated to their respective rooms.

We were first taken to a part of the buildim? where in a room about double the size of an ordinary living-room there were a dozen men sitting round a table mending shoes. What struck one was the apparently natural attitude of these men. They did not rise or stand to attention on our entry. They either simply, went on with their work or sat observing us with ordinary interest, but without any expression of concern or tear on their taces. They exchanged remarks with the officials in an easy and intimate manner.

Iiran adjoining room there were on the floor some 200 pairs oi suues wmcu were awaiting repair, were lnlormed that this work was entirely voluntary on the part of the Ihey were permitted to mend their own shoes, but not to do work which would otherwise be done by 1 T. ordinary paia isoour. rrom tne ooot-repairing room -we were taken into several large, cells," which accommodated from six to eight men. Each these cells contained a table, chairs (most of which appeared to be new), and beds arranged around the room. In most cases we noticed flowers on the tables, and the men were sitting playing games, reading, or lying down.

Each room had a large window which looked out on the trees between the cell and the outer prison wall. None of the doors of these cells was apparently locked, and we noticed men coming and going wimoui lnienerence rrom weir own rooms to visit fellow-prisonera in other rooms or to walk" talk together in. the great central parade ground. From the larce cells we nassed to the large central courtyard. Hjere there were about 100 men standing or walking about in groups.

The largest group was. slowly walkinR round the Dr. O. V. M.

Sprague, who went to London as financial adviser to felio United States delegation to. tha Economic Conference, on reaching Xew York yesterday, -said he thought it probable that' the United States would officially recognise Russia. CATHEDRAL SERVICES Jfitlns at 11: Kienioni at 4. Holy Communion. Weokdajs' daily at 7 SO a.m.

Holy Dsji anl Fnda (choral) at 11 a.m. Bat) lis mi sfter duo notice. Frldsy. Holy Communion at 7 30 a.m. and 11 a.m Matlm and Litany said at 8a.m.

Introlt, "Very Brend, good Shepherd (Marchant) Boly Communion Brewer In flat; Hymns JIB, 558. Evensong i Selby In A flat; Anthem 1,045, 'Hall, gladdening Light' (Wood) (service rendered without organ). TMTESTMAOOXT'S DRY GINGER ALE. A real stimulant. All Hotels, to.

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6d. per lino. AH much anacnioccmeiiU man be aatbecUcated by the name and addrcat of th tender. Poitaa tampi or pctl order ma; be ict in payment. BIRTH PH.KINOT0H.-Oa July IS.

193S, at Sanlson House Xnrsiiiftv Home, Victoria Park, to Mr. aod Via. W. A. FlftKUiGTON (formerlr May Bacchus), of 31, St.

Man's Boid. Frestvich, the gilt el a daurhter. MAERIAGE ALOOROSrrStOiBOn July 12. 1953, at St. cararch, Blackls AUSXAriDEB.

son ICrs. E. St AIJrOIlOrT. et 592. Barr Roid.

Higher Broncntoc. and Smlthflsld Harket. In EDNA, eldest datutbter ol Henrr and Mrs. ROHU of Hsieldese, Buckler, also of BmitliHeid. starlet.

DEATHS AtHWORTH. On Julr 13, at 26, Alexandra Hoad, South port, MARY, widow of the lata William Rostron ABHWORTH, In her 79th sear. Serrica at noon Ohapel Street OaniresaticiirJ Church, prior to Interment tt li 30 Souteport Cemetery. Ko flowers, br request. July 13.

at 1. Cranlord Annue, Knutaford, ZARBH BARONlAtf, aged 69 jears. Please aeeect this (U only) Intimation. BROCKLHKUniTY-On Jul, io, atTheCedan, Norlh Road, Lomslsht, FREDKBJCK WILLIAM, the be-lojed huibaorf of Ifarr Ross BROCKLEHURST. aged 66 jean.

Serrlcw'Hrde Rosd JJetbodlir. Church, 2 p.m.; interment Gorton Cemetery 3 50O. On tie lOth ax. the residence of her datiateT. Jtri.

Hope, Duke Street. AbJerler Edge, OAfB-BEIrrE. widow ol George CRAG07 ia Str tielfh'inst tWIed Eds. Cemeurj on i 30 1 Seattle, Washington. tt: Cheshire, aged 64.

Funeral at Ctowtca Baturdir. FriOTd 1935. CHARLES WATSON, eldeit Jd deirlr loed son of Rots and the late Paul BAGGER. 2. Detainer.

Street! Her Ooe pn' STHx ud choir tnaiter of fit. lV Ji007-. Ir conductor of the Heaton Moor and district and the Tideswell Choral Societies), gerrice Jn BU Fanl's Church. Heaton Hoot, on Saturdar: at 1 30 o'clock. Further inquiries to Mr.

O. BaTi: Tel. 2151 HJt 6Sth Tear. to. Td huibaiitl of Blanche al MttLASI) of 16, Sacdileifii Arenoe, WltHnzton, sad snrrmns; sop of the late Dr.

Frederick Meflaud. of Manchester. at the Crematorium on Saturdar, Wr 16, tt 12 30 am. An inorfries to Xessrs. Kendal, Milne and CoT KEiVMASL-On July 13.

at 30. EItJtt Street. Man-ehestar 7. CATHfeRIB AMEuged 77 Cremation at StaneiisstST Cremator! am Saturdar'. tweWe noon.

No flowers, by request. SHAW-On Julr.ll. at 59, Rowiler Arcane. Letenr-hnlnie. 8ARATT.

wtrfM ib. BHAW. in Sonera! Christ cfaScE Brnurher, tltas dar fFridar). at 1 30. Inornrles SLSih Lane.

dglFridaj). at 2 p.m. Fleas, aeceoi rJSUr coir irrrritriic son. of the bu. gjjggjwd and -Mrs.

VATJGHAK. of Whlle- at Straw-Bank. Chelford. Jod hnitand of May WILSOX. 6h roir Carent to Sh-John JDixon.

Funeral at Cbeltord Church on Saturda. Julr 16. at fio pjn. w00OCaeK-Oii the lltS Inst, at CHeadle. '2 JJ Frederick-iLiS? 2222- berries at Hots Side Restitt- Chnreh Sstrrrdar.

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Oxford ca fTtn'o rm -PH mm Z. DOWJJINa 6T, Ma ArtwkkXKr the Etltor Tic Editor cannot be resmaiiKt lot fdm. stamped and. addressed esTelenea sSiS3iS. Ministerial Wives Exclamations ot surprise from many of the delegates greeted a recommended regulation regarding ministerial matrimony, which was announced to the Conference by Dr.

J. H. Ritson, general secretary of the Ministerial Training Committee. Dr. Ritson was presenting a report relating to the regulations con cerning candidates for the ministry.

The committee, he said, desired to make the following addendum: "If any candidate has entered into a matrimonial engagement the superintendent of the circuit shall furnish a written statement as to the suitability of his fiancee." A Delegate Does suitability mean suitable as a minister's wife or suitable to be married to the candidate Dr. Ritson: Suitable as a minister's wife. Dr. Dinsdale T. Young: I did not gather who was to be the judge of the suitability.

As some of the delegates continued to be mildly excited and amused, the President (the Rev. Luk WiBeman) observed sharply It is not a matter to be lightly treated. The committee has made a serious proposition, and I hope the Conference will treat it seriously. If you do not like it you will have an opportunity of expressing your dislike, but take the ordinary way of doing it." The proposition having been read out again. Dr.

Bond, the general secretary of the Conference, remarked The only thing I am bothered about is supposing the superintendent's word is not satisfactory, what then? A Delegate I move the entire deletion of the recommendation. The President There is no need. You can vote against it. The addendum, on a show of hands, was defeated and declared to be "not approved." A New Post Created A new post, declared by Dr. Scott Lidgett, ex-president of the Conference, to require the services of a superman was created by the Conference during the further consideration of the Ministerial Training Committee's report.

The Rev. Thomas Naylor, chairman of the Cardiff and Swansea District, was appointed separated secretary to the Ministerial Training Committee, following upon the committee's having been made responsible for the whole of the training of ministers from candidature to ordination. Mr. Naylor is to take up his new. duties a year hence.

The Rev. Arnaud Scott, chairman of the Exeter District, asked if a man could undertake the vast responsibility of looking after 200 probationary ministers scattered from the North of Scotland to Cornwall and the students in all the colleges. The idea was absolutely impracticable. In regard to the specific work of the committee, nobody could do it better than Mr. Naylor, but he (Mr.

Scott) protested against "the impracticable idea now put forward." The Conference, by a largo majority, declared its acceptance of the principle of appointing a "separated secretary." Dr. Ritson, who has been acting voluntarily as general secretary of the committee, then moved the appointment of Mr. Naylor. By shouts of "Agreed" this was carried, A "Drink More Wine" Protest The Rev. Henry Carter moved a resolution offering strong opposition to the recommendation by a sub-committee ol the World Economic Conference for the starting of a world-wide propaganda to increase the consumption of wines.

The world could not find its way back to economic prosperity by increasing the sale of intoxicants, said Mr. Carter. The new Methodism should make it clear that it was strongly against "the old drink evil." The resolution was carried unanimously and the Conference adjourned until to-day. THE WEATHER Forecasts for To-day The Meteorological Office Issues the following forecast for the period from a.m. to-day till midnight to-night General Inference -A dftpreukra otct Scotland it moving east.

Weather -will be inowerr. tritli some brighter interrali ia most dlitricti. London. Wind eantb-wexterlr or westerly, moderate or frefh; showeri. in me brighter icterali; a chance of local thunder: rather lev to moderate temperature.

and SE. England. E. and K. Hldlanda.

and S.E. SooUand. Wind aonth.westerlj or moderate or frjh itTOwen. some brighter interrals; a chance ol local thunder; rather low to moderate temperature. W.

and SVW. Eniland. V. Midlands. S.

and N. Walei, and 8.W. Scotland. Wind welterlr. beih.

perhapi atronx locally: bowen, come nrlxhter interrali; rather low to moderate temDeratare. Inch Sea. Wind westerly, fresh or atrons; showery, brighter interrali: if a rather rouari. Further Ontloolc for the British Iil. Unsettled.

Sua iljea. Sets. Moon rises. Seta. To-day 4 57 9 32 II 4 2 01 p.m.

To-morrow. 4 S3 9 31 12 2 17 P.m. For every ten miles north of Manchester sunset later ty 46 seconds. LAMP-TIME POE VEHICLES 53 32 p.m THE HEALTH RESORTS Sun. Bain.

shine tell. Hn. Mm. ScatTXrrourrh Skegness 3 Luarestoft H. 4 6 Hsstinga 5 Eastbourne H.

4 Bournemoatb 8 8 Pen ranee 9 Douglas 01 9 Horecsmbe 05 H. 7 09 Blackpool 0-2 6 South port ID 9 w.li 1-8 6 Freststyn 2-5 4 Blryl Colwyn Bay. I'd 5 Llandudno 2 WMto-ruper-ilare. .10 Illracombe 8 Harrogate 5 Buxton 0-2 7 Leamington 7 ViWem. 7 London (Kew) 5 St.

Andrews- 19 Temperature. Low- High- Kemarki. est. est. 5562 DnU 53-83 Dull 53-60 Drill 56-61 Ctaudy 57-61 Dull 99 S3 Dull 57-68 Dull 57-65 -Dull 57-66 Dull 5562 Doll 5064 Cloudy 5062 Cloudy 55-64 Dull 5566 Cloudy 5568 h.

Clotxty 5568 Drixzle 55-63 Bright 55-68 Bright 5668 Clrrody 55-68 Doll 5765 Dull 55-61 Dull 51-61 Dull 54-64 Dull 54-64 Dull 58-64 Dull 5365 Cloudy FORCED LANDING An army aeroplane made a forced landing at Dawdon, Seaham Harbour, yesterday afternoon. The pilot, in attempting to' alight in a field, crashed through a fence and the machine somer saulted. -The. fuselage parted from the engine, but the -pilot ntceived only slight cats. The Charley Education Committee yester day appointed Mr.

Hugh Water senior French master at King Edward VII. Grammar School iytnam-St. Amies, to. he head master of Chorley Grammar School, in succession to ISr. F.

E. Ganntleit, who ha resigned. on the Dartmoor plan, round an oblong i 1 1- circuiar iormation in tiers one aoove tne other, the doors opening on to balconies. The cells on these balconies varied in size, some being large enough for three and some for four persons. They had all a table and chairs, and beds fixed against the wall one above another.

In cells some of the prisoners were lying on their beds, but in, most cases they were either talking or playing games or reading. In the fourth cell we entered there were two well-known Berlin Communist M.P.s, Herren Rasper and Gruber. When we entered the cell they were sitting at the table playing chess with an apparently new set of chessmen. The general impression that one received was that within the prison walls the men were allowed a fairly extensive measure of liberty and free movement. They were able to come and go about without interference or military regimentation.

The regulations provide that the prisoners must rise at 6 a.m. From 6, to 8 a.m. they wash and clean their rooms and, if they so wish, take part in gymnaBtic exercises. At eight o'clock they breakfast. After breakfast they are free until 12 30 to either read, exercise, work at the shoe-mending, or other personal work.

Dinner is served at 12 30 and supper at 6 p.m. Between the meals they, are free to follow their inclinations within the prison walls. At Sonnenberg there is as yet no provision for work except that of shoe-mending. We were told that it is intended to utilise land near the camp upon which some of the men may be employed. We asked How long are these men to be kept in confinement? The reply was Indefinitely." Yours, Ben Riley.

28, Westfield Avenue, Hudders-field, July 11. THE NATURE OF PACIFISM Eh. Sheppard's Attitude To the Editor of the Manchester Guardian. Sir, Speaking at a demonstration following the National Peace Congress at Oxford, Dr. Sheppaid appears not to carry his own line of thought to its logical outcome.

He is reported to have said: "'You cannot be a pacifist if you really want to hurt youT fellow who does not agree with you." All true pacifists will agree with him. But it seems to me only logical to say also: "You are not 100 per cent pacifist if you want to compel your fellow who does not agree with you to act in your fashion, when he is in a majority and you in a minority." Some pacifists might go even farther and omit the last phrase. Yet Dr. Sheppard deplores the poor support given to a movement he helped to start a year or two ago. This movement failed to gain adherence because its very basis was an interference by a small minority into a mode of behaviour which the participants (who represent the majority view) consider to- be right and abstention wrong.

A man fighting in defence of his country wants to hurt his enemy," but not unarmed non-combatants. Intervention might therefore quite well succeed in stopping him from defending his country in a manner abstention from which he considers to be wrong. Is that justifiable Surely pacifists who endeavour to impose their standard of behaviour on those who do not agree with them are working on futile lines. Nor will emotional appeal secuTe- convincement of man, a reasoning animal. Only reasoning will do this.

Pacifists will achieve greater success by concentrating all efforts on exposing the utter imbecility and injustice of attempting to settle disputes by physical strength, and by striking out into as wide a circle as possible namely, among the common people" for the expression of this view. Intellectual enobberv is a greater obstacle among pacifists than the bitterness of biased conviction, which Dr. Sheppard condemns. Only by reasoned convincement can men be led to take a stand against the foolery and criminality of every kind of war which will hold firm against jingoistic nationalism and immoral legislation. It is not goodwill the world lacks that is innate in humanity, but reasoned enlightenment.

Yours, Caeciua E. M. PnoH. Manchester, July 11. Ihree Peaks la a Day.

Mr. P. B.Waldron writes from Prescot I notice in your issue of July 11 a paragraph on the feat of some Bolton men in ascending Ben Nevis, Scafell, and Snowdon on one day. It may interest your readers to know that this has been accomplished about half a -dozen times, commencing with Messrs. Hadfield and Cain in 1928, and I myself have done it in 1926 and 1932 within about twenty-three hours.

On Friday, June 23, this year, I attempted the feat between sunrise and sunset, starting from the summit of Ben Mevis at 4 15 a-m. and reaching the summit of Scafell Pike at 2 p.m. and then on to Snowdon, the summit of which was reached at 11 5 heine ihr. lflmin aff-a I t-i tune tras 13hr. and errery inch of ui.tjuj vaa aoue oy myseu in a comfortable saloon car.

TO-DAY'S ARRANGEMENTS House ol CoErmonK Slipnlr Colonial Office Vote. Sr tT? Effects OS Smote and luBmUinp," 71. Ifccleston "I Salinas Union Lunch to Dr. Tea, at Washington Hotel, Transport and General Workers' Union. Cambridge.

Society ot the Chemical Industry. Wearasae-cn-Tiae. National. AKceiiticn lor the Frerentian ot Tuber-CUIOSIS, frtrf Vermin Hoar Hotcr Rice. Sosilaa.

Ida ol aha. B03Kot3hifIm1 CmSmact' TTniTCrtiti CoDeie, Stlecates School Speech-dza'. Manchester and Salford Traffic Comnussianen: 9. Core Street. ID 30." Coancery ol Lancashire: Diron t.

FWianTym foart head), Aaaiie Coarts, 1Q4S. or uaatity orxaruxationa and Aaabors HalL In sn? thwLT if lS1 Ita anre-M Social Serried auachetter Grammar School. Old Hall Lane. 7 45. Sport Ctldtmlj-ZmBnaSi r.

Wert Old SraSnrd. (third day). Lava Tennis: BrooUaada Tournament" (ccattnned. At one time during the proceedings it seemed that Winchester would repeat their 1930 achievement, for they led the field with 239, one point better than Marlborough and three in advance of Glenalmond. Going to the longer distance after lunch, they continued to shoot well and were the first to finish, their total being 480.

With their last two men going to the firing-point Glenalmond needed 59 points to surpass Winchester's effort. Their final maTksmen were Sergeant Easton and Lance Corporal J. E. C. Anderson.

The former, who had contributed 34 at the first stage, made 33 at the longer distance, and Anderson improved on his earlier 29 by scoring 33. Before Anderson's last shot, which was a bull, had been fired Glenalmond had got ahead by two points, and Anderson's shot made it a seven-point win. For obtaimne second nlace Winchester were awarded bronze medal and Marlborough, wnose grand aggregate of 478 gave them third position, were awarded small bronze medals. Qlenalmond's winning card was lance xjrporai vr. uasson, az, as eu; Sergeant J.

E. Walker, 31, 3364; Lance Corporal W. P. G. Thomson, 30, 3464; Cadet D.

C. Anderson," 30, 3262; Sergeant W. T. L. Sloan, 27, 2966; Cadet G.

P. Mitchell, 23, 3053; Sergeant A. W. Easton, 34, 3367 Lance Corporal J. E.

C. Anderson. 29. 32 1. This is the second time the school has taken the shield beyond the Tweed, their previous success beine: in 1929.

On that occasion the team was trained by Major n. xiooerts, wno aiso piayeci a part in preparing the team for to-dav'a struzele. Seventy-nine schools were represented, the boys having travelled from all parts of Great Britain. Originally there were 83 entries, but Cheltenham, Oundle, Leys, and Bloxham were prevented frpm coming to Bisley owing to sicknesB. A member of Ampleforth College team was Cadet Lord Oxford, a grandson of the late Lord Oxford and Asquith.

Leading scores below the prize-winners were: Clifton, 476; Denstone, 474; Sherborne, 471; Wellington, 469; Whitgift (Repton), 467; Gresham's, 466; Harrow, 465; Blundell's, 4t4; UampDell, 463; Uulwich, 463; All Hallows (Brighton), 461; Felstead, 460; rpsom, 4o. The Spencer-Mellish Cud. onen to one competitor from each of the teams that had just shot for Ashburton, was won oy oergeant easton (ttlenaimond) with a score of 34. Marlborough were successful in the Cadete' Challenge Trophy competition. open to one team of two members from each school contingent, of the junior division O.T.C., with a total of 121, 'Campbell college (120) being second, and iton (119) third.

Winchester won the Cottesloe Challenge Vase and silver medals for the highest aggregate at 200 yards in the Ashburton and Glenalmond the Country Life Challenge Trophy and silver medals for the highest aggregate at 500 yards. While the Public Schools were deciding the Ashburton an important tussle for county championship honours was staged at 800 and 1,000 yards on Stickle Down. Kent (303) won, London (301) being second, Huflolk (300) third, iiampsmre (298) fourth, Surrey (297) fifth, and Yorkshire (278) sixth. OXFORD HONOURS LIST Theology OXFORD, July 13. The examiners have to-day issued the following class list in the Honour School of Theology: CI.

Alt I. A. Richardson, Exeter; G. S. Wamjley.

St. Edmund CLASS II. B. B. Clara, Sr.

E. T. Go aiding. SC. Joan's: R- A.

Bool. ftn.l ftnnter. fit. J. VS.

V. A rl.rr. TmT TIT Cf Catherine's; W. TJ. Jacob, Jeans; J.

D. LI. Jones, ot. uiaciuiii; A. b.

ai. iieese. St. cetcennes; A. Lunt, 8t.

Catherine's W. W. S. March. St.

Edmand Hall; D. J. Roberta, Ktbie: 8. C. Steer, J.

Ttauns. St. Catberine'a: W. WalUs. Trinity: Walsh, JCeblo; H.

Walr, St. Catherine's; H. fe Wisiom. Exeter. eLa.ee tit nannsTTi, jesns; if.

T. DaTlea, Jesna; B. H. Elan. St.

Catherine's; s. Brant. Exeter; W. V. G.

Griffiths. Jwis; i. Jf. Mahon. Keble; TWWB XSTUi; Xi.

TrdEOT, AODIC; T- W. W. SBJjint. Keble; A. P.

Boss. St. Edmund Hill- TT VT W. -d -ei r-1 H. G.

WoodaU, Keble. CLASS IV. J-A- Bell. St. Catherine's p.

G. Rostock, Qneea's: A J- v- CnnnlTunam, One; W. D. Lnon-Wffliama, Keble H. F.

J. A. ITaxer, F.m??r,,tT:J Jeans: J. F. Kit, St.

Edmund TTT1 to etrh.ii.. tt-; th examinera in Group D. fiercer, jEgiotat. E. Bowen, ftt.

CaUterise'a. A COUNTRY DIARY WesiacrssxEB. July 12. I wonder what Xondoji's starling population is and where all the starlings breed and teed wno axe now using the island in St. James's Park for their roosting-grannd.

Flocks and parties begin to arrive before half -past seven, and long before eight every tree in and about the island is chattering. Host of the birds arrive in high flight and then drop zig-zag through the air like spent rockets, or ss if they had beep. snot. I suppose there is generally a hawk or two waiting at these concentration camps for any bird who may look weak or tired; there was one in the Park here yesterday, a sparrow-nawk, -I fancy; but I did not see him take anything. The excited flutter of the starlings made a strange contrast with the majestic granite walls of the Government buildings near by; arid the Tvhols scene was a xemarkahls blend, of nature and artifice.

For it was just the hour when the ducks leave the water and range in a border on the erase by the water -The itself was quit after, a wipdy day. but the trees above the wild hubbub' till went on. B. S..